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Bill Gates: ‘All Rich Countries Should Move To 100% Plant-Based Beef’ To Fight Climate Crisis

The billionaire also praised plant-based meat brands Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat for having a 'quality road map'

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Billionaire Bill Gates says all rich countries should move to 100 percent synthetic, aka plant-based, beef to fight the climate crisis.

The tech entrepreneur made the comment in a recent interview with MIT, discussing his new book How to Avoid a Climate Disaster.

Plant-based meat brands

Gates praised plant-based meat brands Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat for having a ‘quality road map and a cost road map, that makes them totally competitive.’

“As for scale today, they don’t represent one percent of the meat in the world, but they’re on their way,” he added. 

Rich nations moving to plant-based beef

Gates was then asked whether ‘plant-based and lab-grown meats could be the full solution to the protein problem globally, even in poor nations’.

He replied: “For Africa and other poor countries, we’ll have to use animal genetics to dramatically raise the amount of beef per emissions for them. 

“Weirdly, the US livestock, because they’re so productive, the emissions per pound of beef are dramatically less than emissions per pound in Africa.

“And as part of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s work, we’re taking the benefit of the African livestock, which means they can survive in heat, and crossing in the monstrous productivity both on the meat side and the milk side of the elite US beef lines.

“I do think all rich countries should move to 100% synthetic beef.”

Bill Gates, Entrepreneur.

“So no, I don’t think the poorest 80 countries will be eating synthetic meat. I do think all rich countries should move to 100 percent synthetic beef.  You can get used to the taste difference, and the claim is they’re going to make it taste even better over time…”

Gates then added: “So for meat in the middle-income-and-above countries, I do think it’s possible. But, it’s one of those ones where you have to track it every year and see, and the politics [are challenging]. 

“There are all these bills that say it’s got to be called, basically, lab garbage to be sold. They don’t want us to use the beef label.”

Bill Gates’ book

Gates’ book How To Avoid A Climate Disaster: The Solutions We Have and the Breakthroughs We Need debuts on February 16.

“I’ll share what I’ve learned from more than a decade of studying climate change with experts and investing in the innovations we’ll need to address it,” Gates said

“I hope to explain the science in a clear and compelling way. I’ll also propose a plan for what we need to do over the next decade and beyond to build the tools that will help us eliminate greenhouse gas emissions while scaling up the powerful solutions we already have…

“I’ll suggest some concrete steps that individuals, governments, and companies can take to make it happen.”

You can read the full interview here

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Igor A Panteleyev
Igor A Panteleyev
1 year ago

I’m an ethical vegan for more then a decade. But Gates is not the right person to teach us how we suppose to live our lives to save our planet. Not even close…

Rowland Ross
Rowland Ross
1 year ago

What’s being an ethical vegan got to do with saving the Planet?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Rowland Ross

It has everything to do with it Rowland. It’s about reducing your overall consumption of resources.

Rowland Ross
Rowland Ross
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Hi Matt. The only diet that is ethical from an ecological point of view is one that can be produced without damage to the biosphere. That rules out all current diets except genuine Hunter Gatherers that have not yet been murdered or moved into camps. Yes it’s about running out of resources ( not just food and water ) and the only way to deal with that is for the worlds policy makers to persuade the worlds population to “keep it in their trousers!” Anything else is, ( looking well into the future ) “fiddling whilst Rome burns”.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Rowland Ross

We need to deal with the situation as it IS no some kind of idealized reality that doesn’t exist. I like Deep Ecology too but I’m no anti-natalist. I believe we need to take steps to control population, bring people out of poverty, educate girls so they have more opportunities. These things slow population growth. I’m not sure what the ideal population of the earth is, but we need to face facts that we will likely grow to 10 billion by the end of the century. If that is the case how can we possibly continue to raise and grow animals as a source of food? When the process requires that we loose so many calories as heat as the animals grow and emit green house gasses in the process. We have a population problem with humans, but there is a secondary population problem, the animals we eat. To fix the second issue all we need to do is stop breeding them. The only viable solution is for us to shift rapidly towards a plant based diet. Widespread ethical veganism is a creed that we will require to facilitate this shift. This will buy us the time to bring the population down to a sustainable size.

Rowland Ross
Rowland Ross
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

“Those who fail to see that population growth and climate change are two sides of the same coin are either ignorant or hiding from the truth. These two huge environmental problems are inseparable and to discuss one while ignoring the other is irrational.” James Lovelock.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Rowland Ross

I agree.

But we need to curb the carbon footprint of the human population today. How do you propose that we do that Rowland?

Rowland Ross
Rowland Ross
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Nuclear Power! It’s the option favoured by most specialists.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Rowland Ross

Okay, that’s one. But they are notoriously expensive and there is little political will to build new ones. Renewables are now the cheapest way to produce energy. With our main issue being energy storage.

How else can we decarbonize a person today, with zero expenditure? In fact we can save money on food production and medical procedures.

How about we cut all fossil fuel and food subsidies?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

What a thing to say. Are you okay SirGalahadT?

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

The vegan lifestyle is less sustainable than a carnivore one. Where do you get all your fresh fruit and veg in the winter?

I get my meat and fish from pretty close to where I live. Any time of year.

Would you like to explain how your monocrops of grain are better for the environment than cows in pasture? And by the way, as I’m sure you believe the global warming hoax, cows on pasture actually sequester carbon from the atmosphere.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

While cows on a pasture sequester carbon it is not a net sequestration. That’s something people like you don’t seem to understand. If a system on balance emits CO2e then it is a carbon emitter. Do you understand that? You know what does sequester carbon? Trees.

How are we going to feed 7.5 billion people on meat? There isn’t enough pasture on 5 earths to sustain that. A meat heavy diet is elitist. Your diet is elitist. It will never work for everyone on the planet. You need to accept that.

Lorey
Lorey
1 year ago

I couldn’t agree with you more. Outside with this man and his sinister agendas.

Tomato Foundation
Tomato Foundation
1 year ago
Reply to  Lorey

Lorey, unless you can provide solid evidence based proof to support your comments on alleged sinister agendas from Bill Gates, you should keep your own council. We don’t need unfounded conspiracy in such a positive space as PBN. And that applies to everyone. Keep it real folks. Thats how we win. Peace

soulquest7
soulquest7
1 year ago

She’s a conspiracy theorist. There’s a whole cult around conspiracy theories these days. It’s embarrassing. Gates is one of their villians even though for a rich guy he spends his free time on some important issues.

munee
munee
1 year ago
Reply to  soulquest7

It’s no conspiracy. Look up how Gates vaccines effected kids in India and Africa. They ran him out of India. Also check out his father. And it’s funny that some circles calls vegans and climate change activists cult members and make fun of them just like you do so called conspiracy theorists.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  munee

Remember how people were called conspiracy theorists for claiming there was an agenda to vaccinate us all, and how we wouldn’t be able to travel or work without a vax cert?

It doesn’t sound so ridiculous now does it?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Yes it still sounds ridiculous.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  munee

He’s irradicating polio.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago

These fake meats are targeted mostly at meat eaters. We can take all the allies we can get. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

Joan T
1 year ago

He’s a good example of the vicious cycle of not eating the fats that make the brain work properly, like essential fats and cholesterol, that are only available in animal foods. Then, the depression and other mental disorders that this can cause people to continue avoiding animal foods. And it’s pretty ridiculous that the the reporter didn’t mention that Gates is a major investor in synthetic meats.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Joan T

Cholesterol is not a nutrient.

Joan T
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Cholesterol is needed to make vitamin D (we have a vitamin D shortage these days), myelin (much mental illness these days), sex hormones (problem for many people), bile (gall bladder surgery from bile dysfunction is the most “popular” surgery-these days), and to have strong cell membranes that can withstand toxins. High LDL protects from bacterial infections, like staph (which is overwhelming hospitals, these days). So, since people have been avoiding animal fat, we don’t appear to be getting enough cholesterol. Eggs are particularly high in cholesterol, and the oldest living woman, who died at 117-years-old a few years ago, ate 3 eggs a day, after being told to do this by a doctor, since she was a sickly child.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Joan T

Cholesterol is a metabolite of the liver. High cholesterol is a very accurate predictor of atherosclerosis build up. That’s why statins are the most popular drugs in the world.

Even the USDA an organization responsible for promoting agriculture has stated in their last two dietary guidelines: “cholesterol should be consumed as little as possible”. Well as little as possible is zero.

Joan T
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

The only bad cholesterol is VLDL, which is oxidized cholesterol that contains large amounts very unstable linoleic acid from modern oils. Atherosclerosis is a modern disease, which began right after cottonseed oil was sold as Wesson oil and Crisco. Cottonseed has a poison, gossypol, that prevent the body from absorbing cholesterol. So, the liver has to make all the cholesterol the body needs, which causes a lot of problems. Dairy cows are still given cottonseed, unlike in Europe where this is banned. It gets into the meat and dairy products! So, it’s extremely important to eat pastured beef and dairy products. My cholesterol is high, but my VLDL and triglycerides are very low. And, unlike when I was a vegetarian, I’m not depressed anymore.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Joan T

Consumption of fat causes a dopamine release. This may have something to do with your improvement in meatal health. Their are healthy plant sources of fat.

Atherosclerosis was found in mummies, as they ate diet rich in animal products. Atherosclerosis is a natural defense in response to inflammation. It is the result of consuming a diet rich in animal products and/or highly processed foods. I’m sure trans fats from grain fed beef increase the oxidization effect of oxidized cholesterol. Which is very different from claiming that grass fed beef is actually healthy. It may be less unhealthy.

Joan T
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

People in Egypt, India and China, where they grow cotton, have been giving cottonseed to their cattle for many centuries. Atherosclerosis is a modern disease here, because we didn’t do it before. Cottonseed is a major cattle feed in India, so much so that Indians can’t eat beef. Back to fat: there are only two kinds of fat that the body can’t make enough of, and they’re called essential fats. These are DHA, mainly in fish, and arachidonic acid, which we need 4 times more than DHA, and this is only in meat and meat fat. They used to think arachidonic acid was inflammatory, but it actually initiates the anti-inflammatory system, and is low in pretty much all chronic diseases that I have looked up. Also, we evolved as scavengers of ruminants, 2 billion years ago, so it’s pretty farfetched to think that meat from grass-fed ruminants is bad for us.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6354690/ https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.2903/j.efsa.2017.4850 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26131

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

With regard to the mummies – they also had man-boobs, and that, along with atherosclerosis was from the diet that was high in grains – specifically wheat.

It’s funny how meat always gets the blame when then, as now, it constitutes a low proportion of most people’s diets.

Trans fats from grain fed beef? Never heard of that. Beef, even from grain-fed beef has an excellent fat profile – ie lots of saturated fat and very low in PUFAs, especially linoleic acid. I would worry most about the glyphosate accumulation from the grain they’re consuming, but it’s probably far lower than what your “heart-healthy” grains contain.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

They didn’t mummify peasants. Only kings and queens. That ate the rich animal food diets of kings and queens. Look throughout history you will see how the ruling class suffered from the same ailments that much of the SAD eating population does now.

BTW people get man boobs from consuming eastrogen. Found in meat and dairy.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

In case you hadn’t noticed, the SAD is mostly plant-based. I wonder why meat gets all the blame.

The most likely culprits are seed oils, grains, and refined carbs.

If the Ancient Egyptians were eating mostly meat, they wouldn’t have man-boobs, and neither do we carnivores of today.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Are you actually a carnivore? You only consume dead animals and water?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Joan T

BTW it is good for the body to make all the cholesterol it needs. Like all vegans. That way you can only have excessive amounts of cholesterol if you eat too much saturated fat.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Even the USDA an organization responsible for promoting agriculture has stated in their last two dietary guidelines: “cholesterol should be consumed as little as possible”.

Why would any sane person take advice front the government?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Is your tin-foil hat on tight?

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

If last year’s covid-1984 spectacular didn’t show conclusively that the government is not on our side, nothing will.

Just to take something non-controversial on the health front. Did you hear any “authority” recommending we get more vitamin D, more sunshine, and more exercise?

Did you hear anyone advocating the elimination of processed food and seed oils from our diets?

No – because they don’t want us healthy.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Firstly I’m not American. You know the internet is international, right?

I agree governments should be promoting healthy diets. We know what that looks like: A whole foods plant based diet.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

“A whole foods plant based diet”

That’s what they are promoting. And people have never been sicker.

In fact, life expectancy is going down in the US and UK.

Haven’t you seen the EATLancet campaign? Mostly plant-based, and very high in carbs.

If that’s what they recommend, I’ll do the opposite.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Do you know anyone who actually eats a whole foods plant based diet? I don’t and I’m vegan. Nobody eats that healthy.

These days people are eating more saturated fat than ever. From cheese on pizza.

With “carbs” you should make a distinction between whole foods and junk food. If you don’t then you don’t understand nutrition. It’s a lot more involved than knowing how to loose water-weight.

Darrell Sawczuk
Darrell Sawczuk
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

The majority of the world does not eat a whole foods plant-based diet. So surely we cannot blame shortened life expectancy on this? :/

Honestly
Honestly
1 year ago

Wow, Bill gates became the largest farm land owner in the US in 2020….. and this… this is NOT good. That “synthetic beef” probably is so so unhealthy otherwise this guy who wants to REDUCE the world population would not he promoting it at all.

He is not interested in people’s health or the environment

Honestly
Honestly
1 year ago

Wow bill gates bacame the largest farm land owner in the USA in 2020…
I would not trust Bill Gates on ANY THING! Those fake “beef” will probably slowly kill people. As he has stated many times before how he wants to reduce the human population by 30%!
He is top ten most evil people on earth!

Max Guevera
Max Guevera
1 year ago

I wonder when this lab-grown meat will be available in the UK. Many of the current plant-based alternatives we currently have our great, but I do miss the interwoven fattiness of real meat. Let’s hope Bill Gates is allowed to see his visions realised and the anti-science ‘skeptics’ don’t get in the way of him saving the lives of billions of animals.

YY
YY
1 year ago

I m going to stick to the diet of 114 year old Dr. Leila Denmark who received 15 awards and honors which is more than Bill Gates and all the plant based doctors combined.

soulquest7
soulquest7
1 year ago

Synthetic? How is plant-based protein and oil synthetic? It’s processed, but it’s not synthetic. That makes it sound like it’s plastic. I wish Gates would choose his words more carefully if he’s on our side.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  soulquest7

It’s sythetic beef because it’s not real beef.

It’s also high in seed oils, so go ahead.

Gates is on the globalists’ side. They want people to be unhealthy, which is why they’re advocating fake food and getting rid of animal-based diets.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

While unhealthy, fake meats are likely healthier than meat.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Do you have any evidence for that? Because I’ve got evidence to the contrary.

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From Dr. Paul Mason – ‘Saturated fat is not dangerous’

on YouTube

Educate yourself

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Saturated fat is one of the things that makes fake meat unhealthy. When you try to emulate an unhealthy food, you will create an unhealthy food. It’s a really wacky idea that saturated fat isn’t unhealthy. In fact it is a strait up lie.

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Speaking of strait up lies – you just told a whopper.

Saturated fat is a fundamental part of our ancestral diet, so to blame modern diseases on it takes a special kind of brainwashing.

What do you think the cells in your brain most resemble – those of nuts or those of animals like cattle?

Here’s some science – all attempts to show that saturated fat is harmful have failed:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a4d5666bff20053c65b7ff2/t/5e7d1d617fa6e328446c1da3/1585257826194/RCTs+on+saturated+fats.pdf

I’ll stick to my high-animal-fat diet

Darrell Sawczuk
Darrell Sawczuk
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

For info on all things nutrition head to

https://nutritionfacts.org/

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Looks like I can’t post links here.

Anyone interested in the science should search for Saturated Fats and Health: A Reassessment and Proposal for Food-Based Recommendations: JACC State-of-the-Art Review

Highlights:
Several foods relatively rich in SFAs, such as whole-fat dairy, dark chocolate, and unprocessed meat, are not associated with increased CVD or diabetes risk.

There is no robust evidence that current population-wide arbitrary upper limits on saturated fat consumption in the United States will prevent CVD or reduce mortality.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

Are you a rancher, or do you own a pizzeria?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

So you don’t trust your government but you can cherry pick and trust a study that supports your bias. Interesting.

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

*Posts link from YouTube, calls it evidence, says educate yourself.

You are new at this argument, aren’t ya bud?

SirGalahadT
SirGalahadT
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

LOL – we’re arguing on a blog. You provide not evidence whatsoever, and you mock the real evidence I gave.

If you click on the image you’ll see three systematic review, or meta-analyses.

They are explained in the Youtube video.

As I said, what’s your best evidence that saturated fat is bad?

Before you answer, think about this question:

What do the fats in your body most resemble? Omega 6 PUFAs in plants or the saturated fat in animals.

Another point to bear in mind. Inside a ruminant’s stomach, bacteria work to convert cellulose into what? Saturated fat!

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  SirGalahadT

It’s a well established fact that saturated fat in the diet raises cholesterol. Cholesterol over 60 causes a build up of atherosclerotic plaques. This manifests as high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease. If you don’t understand these fundamentals you need to educate yourself friend. I think someone has been spending too much time on bro science keto blogs.

Xcalifornian
Xcalifornian
1 year ago

I have a better idea: EAT THE RICH

YY
YY
1 year ago

I will stick to diet advice of 114 year old Dr. Leila Denmark who has received 15 awards and honors
which is more than Bill Gates and all the plant based doctors combined.

Darrell Sawczuk
Darrell Sawczuk
1 year ago
Reply to  YY

What an amazing age! The increasing number of plant-based doctors do however follow the science. A well balanced whole foods plant based diet can support all stages of life 🙂

Gina
Gina
1 year ago

How practical would it be if the poorer countries produced crops of veggies, beans and grains for human consumption instead of cow-feed and just not eat cows (rather than breeding meatier, lower emissions cows)?

Jake
1 year ago

Whilst I agree with some of the commenters that Bill Gates perhaps isn’t the best messenger for this subject (and he actually addresses that himself in his new book), I don’t think it is a good idea to dismiss him for that. I’d say that he’s knowledgeable on the topic and has put a lot of resources into sustainability research and projects (also mentioned in his book). That can only be a good thing.

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